Palm One Says They'll Develop Cell-Phone Line 83
Sammy McLoughlin writes "Palm Addict interviewed Ed Colligan, Palm One's president, who finally put an end to the speculation of the Treo 650. According to the interview, the Treo range of Palm cellphones / organizers will be expanded. The Treo 600 will also be retained." The story's permalink doesn't seem to work for me, but search for "Colligan" within the Palm Addict page for this short but interesting exchange.
Treo 300 (Score:5, Informative)
Hopefully, when the 650 comes out, the 600s will drop to an affordable price.
Re:Treo 300 (Score:3, Interesting)
PJA: Let's talk straight for a moment, Ed. There have been marketing pix of the Treo 650 out on the web for months, and in the past week, at least 2 people have had Sprint reps let them use and photograph actual T650's. The cat is out of the bag, so to speak... Handspring embraced the web community, and leveraged them to build a lot of pre-release buzz for the 600. Why is pa1mOne issuing all the 'no comments'?
EC: Were no
Re:Treo 300 (Score:1)
That should be 2.7 seconds. Thinking about ping, I naturally went for ms.
Re:Treo 300 (Score:2)
"I hate the IT color scheme, too."
What happened to all the posts with links to alternative color schemes? I used to be able to quickly scan through the story and find links like
Readable if garish [slashdot.org]
Traditional [slashdot.org]
Readable and pretty [slashdot.org]
Valiantly defiant [slashdot.org]
Gross but accurate [slashdot.org]
all over the place. Where have they gone?
Is slashdot really better off making people find a CSS hack that changes the color scheme (and disables all the ads) on it. pages? Wouldn't it make more sense to enourage the simple use of
Re:Treo 300 (Score:2)
Simply edit the url you are currenlty in and remove the part before slashdot.org
so if it is it.slashdot.org/comme.....
just make it slashdot.org/comme.....
And if there is a special color you want you can just put the color scheme you want.
Ciao
Re:Treo 300 (Score:2)
But then it appears separately in my browser history, which makes it harder to find the sites that I would really like to visit. If it is a clickable link (like the five I made), then it doesn't appear separately. Given the way that I use my browser (frequent visits to a constantly changing list of recently visited sites), it is actually easier for me to post my own clickable link and use that than it is for me to edit the
Re:Treo 300 (Score:1)
Technology Company releases new Technology Shocker (Score:4, Funny)
Get this! A company in a high-competition marketplace is going to release new products to compete with other companies!
Yes! You heard that right. They aren't going down the tried and trusted route of hanging on to the previous design, they are going to move forward, expand their offerings and try to get more people interested.
But! But! I hear you say, why would a company do such a thing?
Beats me. Sure beats me.
Heh predicted this weeks ago (Score:4, Insightful)
The new product lines will be something to keep your eye on, even more interstingly how this will affect their normal PDAs with PocketPC's rising market share.
Re:Heh predicted this weeks ago (Score:1)
Love it, but the $ (Score:5, Insightful)
You can buy a decent Sony Ericsson T610 phone for -$150 with a year's service committment, and buy a decent palm for $99 for a net cost of -$50.
Buy a Treo 600 instead and you have a net cost of at least $300 after activation, a difference of $350. WTF?
There's no way it costs $350 more to make a Treo 600 than a decent cell and palm. No wonder Palm stock is tanking! Everyone I know would buy one, but they've priced it out of reach of the vast majority of people.
Re:Love it, but the $ (Score:1)
You can't get market share if you don't subsidize it. I mean, if I'm spending that kind of $$$, I'll get a iPaq.
Re:Love it, but the $ (Score:2, Interesting)
I just got in on the Amazon -$175 (they upped it!) deal on the T610. I was thinking of using the money to upgrade my battered SJ-30. But first I used the phone's built-in Bluetooth to sync wirelessly with iSync on my Mac (it just worked). And then I used the phone's included XTNDConnect software to sync with Outlook via the IR port
The link to the story.... (Score:5, Informative)
Re:The link to the story.... (Score:1)
Not Found
The requested URL
Re:The link to the story.... (Score:1)
Maybe try again?
Do people still use PDAs? (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Do people still use PDAs? (Score:2)
And besides, cellular pisses me off far too much to at this time be mixed into something as reliable (as long as I don't use the web browser -- but that's why whe have PSSH and Unix boxes for the
Will technologies merge? (Score:1)
Good, and Obvious (Score:5, Interesting)
This is also really good for the consumer, cause, if you haven't noticed, the Treo 600 is a really great device (best PDAphone combo out there), buuuuuuut, it continues to stick around the $500 price tag at the phone retailers. For me, that's way too much to pay for either a phone OR a PDA. What having a complete lineup will do is finally bring the 600 down into mainstream prices.
Re:Good, and Obvious (Score:2)
But it's NOT a phone or a pda. It's both. Yes, I'll definitely give you that it is pricey. Having just recently received one as a gift I didn't have to know the pain of the outlay, but I will say that it is sweet getting rid of an old phone that I hated and now having to carry around one less device. I really like the Palm OS and the Treo600 as a phone is about a hundred times better than the ancient Motorola V120 that I had.
Too little too late (Score:5, Informative)
When Palm bought Handspring, the TREO 600 was just released. And you could tell that Handspring had rushed the smartphone to the market in order to survive. The 600 was simply not completely finished. It lacked BlueTooth and suffers from all kinds of small annoying things. Then there is the battery life
But then Palm bought Handspring and I really hoped they would iron out the not-so-great stuff and release a 610 or so as a quick makeover. But they choose to upgrade their PDA-series 5 times or so, even releasing $89 Zire PDA's and let the TREO 600 battle it out against the smartphones of real phonemakers. Not a very wise thing to do. Especially not when you take into effect that they also missed the RoutePlanner market in Europe. I mean, the lousy PocketPC (my opinion) took a huge bite out of the market, because they offered those carkit solutions with route planners. Palm lagged by 18 months or so... it has cost them dearly.
SonyEricsson definately did a better job. They at first released the also not-so-great P800 and followed that one by the much better P900 and now, when Palm just announced that the releasedate of the TREO 650 is being pushed back from October to January, SonyERcisson is releasing the P910
For me for the time being the Palm era is over. My TREO 270 died a month ago (but I still love it) and I only use my Tungsten T (also a very good device) as a route planner
Re:Too little too late (Score:1, Informative)
Have you ever used a Treo 600? By the sounds of it you're just guessing that it loses charge quickly, because I've owned one for a good 6 months now and have to say it's got a fantastic battery life.
I took it away to a festival in August, a whole weekend away from everything. I hadn't bothered charging it for a couple o
Re:Too little too late (Score:2, Informative)
However, overall, in terms of the US market, SE P800/900 phones have not been nearly successful as the Treo600. How would I know? Just look at the phones offered by all of the major wireless carriers. You will see a Treo600 at/near the top of the Smartphone category from all of the major carriers (except Nextel). I'd say this is the testament of Treo600's popularity.
I own a Treo600 myself and can't live wi
Re:Too little too late (Score:2, Insightful)
About the point of the 600 you mention:
1) exportable extende call log (want to see who you called on 6/1/2004? you can, mine goes
Re:Too little too late (Score:2)
Symbian OS (like the P900)
Wifi, Bluetooth and GPRS
Great keyboard (not like the Treo)
Great battery life
I've seen a lot of people scribbling away on their keyboard-less pda's and for me it remains an inferior method of text input. Ever tried doing an ssh session with a pen? The Treo's keyboard is a joke.
Mai
Re:Too little too late (Score:1)
Re:Too little too late (Score:2)
The 9110 and 9210's that I owned before had a very usable keyboard, that really can't be compared to the Treo. (yep I tried a 600 too)
The 9210 keyboard is very usable even while walking because you support the device with your hands while typing with your thumbs. That works pretty well. No need to put it down at all.
Try one before knocking it...
Re:Too little too late (Score:1)
I don't know why I can't get used to the Nokia 9000 series. I mean, in the past for ov
Re:Too little too late (Score:1)
Re:Too little too late (Score:2)
I'm disappointed with the software (I had expected the Palm platform to do better) and the terrible keyboard of the Clie so that's why I'm considering going back to a Nokia (If I can extend the warranty).
My main applications are browsing (which is better on the Clie).
Re:Too little too late (Score:2)
The 650 looks good, but there is speculation that the CF slot hasn't been re-designed from the 600 version, so it won't supply enough power to use the Palm WiFi card.
That's a major bummer, as it would be a fantastic plus given home WiFi and the new facilities in pubs, shops, etc.
Re:Too little too late (Score:4, Interesting)
The one thing the P900 does well is BT, which is nice, but with the Treo 600 my need for BT is much more limited, since the data capabilities are quite excellent, and the thumb keyboard makes real email, SMS and IM applications usable. Yes the GPRS battery suck problem is an issue, so I let it disconnect when it's not being used, since reconnection takes a pretty trivial amount of time. I have almost never used enough data in one day to suck the battery dry, I think it's happened to me twice. Yes, it is fishy that I can use the thing for 3 or 4 days of regular voice use without needing a recharge, and one to two days with modest data use, max, but this is a small compromise to make for the power of this phone.
Hopefully Palm One will continue to offer their upgrade program in the future so I can get the promised improved battery life and bluetooth in the Treo 650 for a reasonable price. Then my life would be truly complete. I just hope Palm keeps delivering, so I don't have to stoop to getting a Symbian device... ugh.
BT on Treo (Score:2)
Re:BT on Treo (Score:1)
iPalm? (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:iPalm? (Score:3, Interesting)
Treo 650 pics (Score:3, Informative)
Palm's focus on phones has clearly hurt their PDAs (Score:5, Insightful)
I had $400 bucks put aside to buy the new top of the line Palm PDA. I'd heard the T5 was about to be out, and was ready to buy it day one. Then I read the feature list and was shocked to find it has none of the new features I was looking for.
It is a horribly disappointing device. It has no Wi-Fi, they've removed the voice recorder and vibrate alarm that was present in the T3, and they've made it out of plastic instead of the T3's metal housing. It has no camera, only a single memory slot, which means no place at all for an external memory card if a Wi-Fi card is installed.
And that new multi-media version of Palm OS? The one based on BEOS? The one that was released to developers nearly a year ago? No it isn't present either. They're using the same old Palm OS that's on every other Palm device on the market.
Sony is of course out of the Palm PDA market, but devices they released 8 months ago are still better than what was just announced by Palm. It's sad really, I don't want to buy a WinCE machine, but the only machines with big hi-res screens, built in Wi-Fi, removable batteries and featuring full multimedia support are WinCE.
Message to Palm: Get off your butts, crash develop a feature laden, high end PDA (not cell phone) and release it in the next few months. Either that, or just cede the entire high end PDA market to the WinCE machines. Or hell, just license one of the many Taiwanese designed WinCE PDA's and drop PalmOS on it.
Re:Palm's focus on phones has clearly hurt their P (Score:2)
They have at *least* 8 active models right now, only *one* of which integrates a cell phone.
Their $149US model plays MP3s, Video, supports thousands of colours, uses SD cards of at least 256MB (I've read about people using 512MB and 1GB) with support for bluetooth and wifi ALSO with an SD card. The next model up gets you a 360x360 transflective screen, 65k colours and a built in VGA cam
I don't know about this...... (Score:1)
I'm not a huge fan of my treo 300. (Score:2, Interesting)
1. The battery is internal so it's not easily pulled/replace (see comment 2)
2. Sometimes the palm OS will crash and there will be a reset button on the touch screen but it's so locked up you can't hit it, and the phone's power button won't work either so you have to leave the screen open until the battery completely dies.
3. This phone's SMS doesn't work with Sprint's network so the keypad is only really useful for managing the phone book.
4. Treo 300 doesn't have bui
Re:I'm not a huge fan of my treo 300. (Score:3, Insightful)
My point (Score:2)
Re:My point (Score:2)
Re:My point (Score:2)
I'll probably wait until I can buy one on ebay for half retail price.
Re:I'm not a huge fan of my treo 300. (Score:3, Informative)
Then I lose all my data right? (Score:2)
One time after losing everything I resynced and it actually deleted all my records. The last time I lost everything I backed up my palm desktop files and then did a resync.
Re:Then I lose all my data right? (Score:2)
Maybe. The reset button has two modes--"soft reset", which just ends all processes and starts again, thus not killing your memory, and "hard reset", which clears the RAM and boots from ROM (thus losing any not-backed-up data.)
Don't you lose everything if you let the battery run down? Or does your Treo have a flash memory backup?
Re:I'm not a huge fan of my treo 300. (Score:1)
True, although how often do you replace a battery?
2. Sometimes the palm OS will crash and there will be a reset button on the touch screen but it's so locked up you can't hit it, and the phone's power button won't work either so you have to leave the screen open until the battery completely dies.
Unscrew the tip of your stylus and stick it in the hole in the back of the PDA marked reset. This will give you a soft reset. In o
Re:I'm not a huge fan of my treo 300. (Score:2)
1) This is true, but I've never had a need to replace it yet, and I can get up to three days charge, and recharging is a snap.
2) The 600 has a hardware reset switch that is located on the back of the phone, and is easily pressable with the pointer that screws out of the stylus. That being said, I've only had to use it twice since I've gotten the phone.
3) Since I use Verizon, I can't really speak to that, but I get close to 50K/s at times, and the SMS and MMS work perf
Pocket PC input? (Score:1)
And however the input works, how to people find PDA's compare in the realm of text input?
URL for Ed Colligan interview (Score:2, Interesting)